The case for devolving policing
I am very
pleased to open this debate
I also
find this type of debate, such as todays and the one on reserved powers last
year gives the National assembly an opportunity to show the direction of travel
that it wants devolution to take.
In
February last year First Minister Carwyn Jones called for powers over policing
to be devolved to Wales.
Alun
Michael a former home office minister
and currently the police and crime commissioner for South Wales has said
Many of the levers which affect levels of crime have already
been devolved to Wales such as community safety, education, training, jobs,
mental health services, alcohol and drug treatment, housing, healthy
communities as well as many other services relating to social factors.
Tackling crime - reducing offending and reoffending -
necessitates working with other public services which already operate on a pan
or sub Wales level. For example support for those with mental health conditions
both before they reach crisis point and need police intervention, and once they
have entered the criminal justice system means working with the Welsh NHS and
local Health Boards
I believe that if
policing powers were devolved this would allow for much greater liaison between
both services locally and by Ministers and civil servants at a strategic level
within Wales, rather than between Wales and Westminster.
I think there is real potential for a successful Welsh model
which can build on the strengths of devolution without cutting adrift of being
part of the United Kingdom. That’s why I agree with the motion that this should
not include the UK National Crime Agency and national security, and I would add
the strategic policing requirement and counter terrorism.
It is important that Police Services continue to be able to
provide mutual support for large events which we saw an incredibly successful
demonstration of during the recent NATO summit in South Wales.
Co-operation in policing clearly needs to extend not just to
the British Isles, but into Europe and beyond. We know that crime and terrorism
cross borders – more so now than ever before and we need co-ordinated measures
to make sure that criminals cannot avoid charges by fleeing to Spain or
anywhere else as once seemed the case.
The Welsh Government have shown the capacity
for leadership and common sense implementing policies developed by Welsh Labour
through their investment in 500 additional Community Support Officers which
have been invaluable during the harsh period of austerity.
Turning
to the proposal
Firstly I
want to deal with the two exceptions in the proposal
UK National Crime Agency and national
security
Obviously
national security needs to be excluded because dealing with spies or terrorists
needs to be done on at least a British
basis
The
National crime agency is a
crime-fighting agency with national and international reach and the mandate and
powers to work in partnership with other law enforcement organisations to bring
the full weight of the law to bear in cutting serious and organised crime.
The Border Policing Command (BPC) is a vital
part of the approach to increased border
security
The Economic Crime Command (ECC) places the
NCA at the forefront of the fight against economic crime affecting the UK
The NCCU provides a joined-up national
response to cyber and cyber-enabled crime, ensuring that expertise is focused
where it can deliver the most impact and add most value.
The CEOP
command is dedicated to eradicating the sexual exploitation and sexual abuse of
children and young people.
The Organised Crime Command (OCC) leads,
supports and co-ordinates the national effort to identify, pursue and disrupt
serious and organised criminals.
What this leaves then is the day to day
policing carried out by the four Welsh police forces.
The police do not work in isolation, they
work closely with the fire service and ambulance service which are both
devolved.
Other
arguments in favour of devolving policing are the ability to better connect
policing with other devolved services such as support for victims of domestic
abuse and the health service as mentioned by Alun Michael
The Welsh
Government’s expansion of Community Support Officers by an additional 500 will
further increases their visibility and has had a positive effect on both crime
and anti social behaviour. Community Support Officers are now the public face
of policing in communities and in many cases they have built up excellent
relationships with their local community.
I am
aware of both how visible and popular PCSOs are in Swansea East and I would
imagine it will be the same across all of Wales.
Many of
the older generation will remember when we had Watch Committees responsible for
policing in Wales. During most of the 20th Century policing was a
local government function controlled by the Watch Committees of the relevant
county, or in the case of Swansea, Cardiff, Merthyr and Newport, the County
Borough Council. We then moved from the local Watch Committee to two Police
Committees covering the whole of Glamorgan and Gwent with very little control
over the local police force.
The
replacement of Police Authorities by Police Commissioners is the only major
structural change that has taken place in the force since the 1960s. South
Wales, Dyfed Powys, North Wales and Gwent have been in their current form, with
minor amendments on local government reorganisation in 1996, since the late
1960s
With
policing devolved to both Scotland and Northern Ireland it is anomalous that it
has not been devolved to Wales.
The Northern Ireland Assembly in March 2010 voted in favour of the
devolution of policing and justice powers from Westminster, despite opposition
from the Ulster Unionist Party (UUP).
The vote underpined the Hillsborough Agreement
brokered between the Democratic Unionist Party (DUP) and Sinn Fein to stabilise
the region's power-sharing government.
The Assembly then created a Department of
Justice for Northern Ireland after the powers were devolved later that year.
If the
Welsh Assembly votes in favour of devolving policing today who thinks we will
have it devolved within a few months?
Looking at continental Europe and North
America it is Wales that appears out of step. Across most of the democratic
world other than control of national security, and serious crime policing is
carried out by the regional or local police forces
Law
enforcement in Germany lies with the 16 federal states. Each lays down the
organisation and duties of its police. Germany also has a central police force
with responsibility for border security, protection of federal buildings and a
mobile response force that is able to help out, or reinforce, state police if
requested to do so.
Law
enforcement in Spain is complicated but can be simplified into the national
police such as the civil guard and the national police corp, regional police
forces and local or municipal police forces. The national police concentrate on
things such as drug enforcement, immigration and border security. The regional
police concentrate on protecting buildings and protection of individuals. The
local police tend to deal with matters such as traffic offences and the
enforcement of local laws.
Policing
in the USA consists of federal agencies like the FBI, state agencies such as
highway patrol and local policing by county police and sheriff departments.
Some county and some sheriff departments provide the full range of police
services. In other areas there are boundary lines between the sheriff’s
department and the county police.
What all
these have in common is that local policing is local and major crime and
national security are dealt with at the national level..
What do
the Welsh public think
A poll commissioned
by the body examining the case for devolving more powers to the Welsh
government from Westminster has reported significant public support for moving
policing powers for Wales to Cardiff.
The survey, carried out by Beaufort Research for the Silk Commission on
Devolution in Wales, found 63 per cent of 2,009 respondents polled between May
21 and June 12 last year were in favour of policing powers for Wales being devolved
from central government in England.
Only 35 per cent of those responding said they wanted policing powers to remain
within the remit of the UK government, with the report on the survey describing
the findings as indicating the Welsh public “clearly favoured” further
devolution.
With eight in ten also saying they felt the National Assembly for Wales worked
in the best interests of the country and had “given Wales a stronger voice in
the UK”, the survey said two in three backed bringing in the devolved powers
within five years
I believe
that the way forward is to devolve most policing to the National Assembly but
keep the UK National Crime Agency and
national security services.
Just
remember that up until the 1960s the large cities of Britain policed themselves
without anyone outside the Home Office having any concerns.
We should
get back the right to police ourselves and hand local policing to the Welsh
Government.